Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Today is a throwback episode from last year when we talked about all things gratitude and entrepreneurship with our good friend and fellow business partner, Larry Hubatka.
Enjoy.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Today is a throwback episode from last year when we talked about all things gratitude and entrepreneurship with our good friend and fellow business partner, Larry Hubatka.
Enjoy.
Welcome back to Expert Ownership. You know today's episode is gonna be the last episode before Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2:I love that holiday.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we've got a lot to be thankful for. We're gonna talk about food today.
Speaker 2:We're gonna talk about traditions, some memories, even a little bit of history, hey, but let me just say this Do you know what I'm thankful for? What's that? Our podcast sponsor. Oh, that is a shameless plug. I'm not so good Christian Healthcare Ministries. This podcast is brought to you by Christian Healthcare Ministries. David and I have partnered with them. Wait a second 18 years. 18 years, 18 years how long ago was it when Lundy was?
Speaker 1:in ICU ICU.
Speaker 2:They covered everything two weeks. She was there for two weeks, but that took place right when she was born, so that was 11 years ago. Thank God we didn't have the insurance nightmare that many people have well, it's not insurance.
Speaker 1:And how many sharing.
Speaker 2:but but how many? Let's see five kids. Let's see, I had three on Christian Healthcare. I think I had two or three, I don't know, you only had come on, but anyways, we're thankful for Christian Healthcare, especially as entrepreneurs.
Speaker 1:They have to run a business there.
Speaker 2:That was one of our first things when we started a business. We didn't know how in the hell heck we were gonna get, say I swallowed.
Speaker 1:I swallowed how in the heck.
Speaker 2:We were gonna get insurance and and we just we found health sharing, which is an alternative to insurance, and Christian Healthcare is the best out there. Larry, read, read a couple of sentences so that it makes sense for people.
Speaker 1:I will be happy to do that in same ways. Please take that clip and cut it out and send it to David and I so we can have that of Jason, that's right.
Speaker 2:I swallowed while I was saying heck, swallowed your anger and expressed it Okay, heck, jerk, real strong language this morning.
Speaker 1:So a couple things about Christian Healthcare Ministries. You might know them as CHM this is actually who David and Jason have been with for the last 18 years, like you just heard. But this is a healthcare alternative for people because it's a ministry. It's committed to sharing medical bill expenses with people, so out of pocket expenses are usually minimized because CHM Shares the burden of covering medical bills. So literally hundreds of thousands of people have already Worked with CHM, signed up for a program that works best for them. So if you are interested and you're listening today and learning more about a cost-effective Option for you and your family, we want you to visit expert ownership comm slash CHM oh, that was powerful.
Speaker 2:That's excellent. Larry is very well done.
Speaker 1:Christian Healthcare Ministries and I appreciate that about you. Hey, we love them. All right, let's jump into this episode. This is gonna be a great episode, because Thanksgiving always just brings out the best in people.
Speaker 2:I should say for mainstream media brings out the worst in them, because they try to hide and cover up our true roots, you know what we might need to, just right out of the gate, go with the history. Well, can I say something? Okay, so this is Jason. So for you listeners that the voice that sounds more manly between the two brothers is always Jason. David's voice is a little higher, which is fine, but my voice has a little more of that velvet base tone.
Speaker 1:Kind of buttery and smooth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, larry, yours is buttery.
Speaker 1:No, yours is buttery.
Speaker 2:Mine's, not Mine's more like a hammer.
Speaker 1:All right, Jason. What are you going to say?
Speaker 2:I wanted to say this because I'm talking to entrepreneurs here, kingdom-minded entrepreneurs. You know, my best ideas and I think you guys would agree with this always came around the holidays, because that's when we took time off and we're with family and all of those things, and it's your conscious thought pattern is interrupted with time, with margin, and you have time to think and all of a sudden you're like wait, I got this great idea and I want to enact on it. That's why I love the holidays. I mean, obviously, you know it's Thanksgiving and we got a lot to talk about what God has done for this nation. And you love Christmas. I love food, yes, but as an entrepreneur, the holidays if you work things right and you don't get overwhelmed by all the tasks that you've got you know shopping and all that kind of stuff, cooking it's a great time for you to generate incredibly unique ideas.
Speaker 1:You know people forget that. The reason those ideas come to you when you're in the shower, on a walk, decompressing during the holidays, is because your brain physically, there's like a physiological shift in your brain. So when you're doing certain kinds of tasks that you have to recall information, let's say you're forced to memorize something or you're walking through kind of a process or a series of steps, your brain produces different wavelengths and when those wavelengths are really tight, so the distance in between the crests on these wavelengths are really tight. Think of it this way there's no space for a new idea to get in there. When you relax, you take a walk, you go for a run. This is why you're in the shower. Something comes to you. You're literally done working out. You're like I got it Because you've created some space here for these new ideas to come in. You create these aha opportunities. So the holidays should be that for us, that's right.
Speaker 2:I like how Michael Hyatt says that margin is the gap between your load and your limits. It's great. So during the holiday season, we often lighten our load, at least to a certain extent, and generally that margin is filled with really good ideas or really good solutions to an existing problem in your company or whatever it may be, even bridges in relationships and the ability to navigate certain things, because we need that margin. That's the beauty of a holiday, but you know what I also like about it and I want to say this before we get to the history, because I really do want to. I want David to take some time to share the story of Thanksgiving, the exact thing that we have read to our company every year since we started in 2003. What I want to say is, as a business owner, creating memories for your people, creating traditions around the holidays that you do as a company, is so vitally important. Why? Because your identity is defined by the memories that you have, and so if, as a company, you can help create awesome, memorable memories for people around the holidays or however you're going to do it, but specifically around the holidays, you're helping them in their identity, come to know who they are. And so for David and I it was always every year.
Speaker 2:We would do a massive Thanksgiving feast and everybody would bring food. David and I would provide the main dish. I think for he and I we might have outsourced the smoking of some turkeys. We might have done that, but we always provided the meat and then everybody would bring sides and then we'd all get together and it was literally like the whole day. It was just kind of a fun thing and we'd do massive desserts and we just completely took off where people didn't have to worry about checking their emails as much or anything like that. And then right after the meal, david actually right before the meal, david would read the story of Thanksgiving, just to remind our people of what Thanksgiving is all about and what we have to be thankful for here in America, because you can't go to North Korea and run a business like you can here in America. That's right.
Speaker 2:That is correct and we need to be thankful for that. But you know, there's two things that have to happen. If a prevailing worldview, which the prevailing worldview of America has by and large been Christianity Now it hasn't been perfect, but it has had a biblical, judeo-christian ethic but if a new worldview wants to come in and take over a prevailing worldview, the only way that it can do it is two ways it has to redefine words and rewrite history. And so, obviously, you see the words being redefined right before our very eyes. That's right. I grew up watching the Flintstones. It's a yabba-dabba-doo time.
Speaker 1:We'll have a gay old time Right, so we can't say that now?
Speaker 2:Why? Because that word's been redefined. That's right. It's. Even the rainbow flag has been—the rainbow has been taken and placed on a flag, and now, all of a sudden, it symbolizes something different than what God originally intended. The same is true with history that they have to rewrite history if they're going to take and overcome a worldview that brought us to the point where we became the greatest nation on Earth, because it led to freedom, and so Thanksgiving points back to those people and their original intent on what they wanted this nation to be. So, traditions in your business, it's good, thanksgiving is awesome, but we need to get into the history of Thanksgiving so that you, as a Kingdom-minded entrepreneur, don't ever forget what our country was based upon. All right, put this on 1.5 speed. Here we go. I read this to our company.
Speaker 1:Oh, this is good, this is great. I read this to our company.
Speaker 2:I read this to our family and we've been doing it for almost two decades. The first—excuse me—I was announcing the first Thanksgiving. The pilgrims set sail for America on September, the 6th 1620, and for two months braved the harsh elements of a storm tossed sea. Upon disembarking at Plymouth Rock, they held a prayer service and then hastily began building shelters, because, you know, the winter was a common. However, they were unprepared for a harsh New England winter. Nearly half of them died before spring.
Speaker 2:Emerging from that grueling winter, the pilgrims were surprised when an Indian named Samaset approached them and greeted them in their own language, explaining to them that he had learned English from fishermen and traders. A week later, samaset returned with a friend named Squanto, who lived with the pilgrims and accepted their Christian faith. Squanto taught the pilgrims about how to live in the New World and he and Samaset helped forge a long-lasting peace treaty between the pilgrims and the Wampanoag Indians. Pilgrim Governor William Bradford described Squanto as a special instrument sent by God for our good and never left us until the day he died that summer. So now this would be the summer of 1621,. This is after half of the pilgrims died. Think about that. Think about half of your family all dead over the winter. And now here it is, the summer of 1621,.
Speaker 2:The pilgrims, still persevering in prayer and assisted by the Indians, reaped a bountiful harvest. As Pilgrim Edward Winslow later became the governor, he affirmed quote God be praised, we had a good increase of Indian corn. By the goodness of God, we are far from want. The grateful pilgrims therefore declared a three-day feast in December of 1621, so it was in November. The very first one was in December, to thank God and to celebrate with their Indian friends America's first Thanksgiving festival. 90 Wampanoag Indians joined the 50 pilgrims for three days of feasting, which included pay attention shellfish, lobster, of course if you're in New England, let's not have lobster.
Speaker 2:I would love to have lobster with turkey. Lobster, turkey, cornbread, berries, deer and other foods. And they played the young pilgrim and Wampanoag Indian men engaged in races, wrestling matches and athletic events. Could you imagine that Straight up wrestling?
Speaker 2:Casual wrestling I will arm, bar you, larry, and the dude gets mad and scalps you, and they prayed together. The celebration and its accompanying activities were the origin of the holiday that Americans now celebrate in November. And then it continues and I'm going to skip through it real quick. But then it says the Thanksgiving celebration spread throughout the colonies as America began to grow. And then it says this America's first national Thanksgiving occurred in 1789, with the commencement of the federal government. So remember, 1789 was the constitutional convention, I thought that was 1787.
Speaker 1:No 1786.
Speaker 2:Well, 1789 was the commencement of the government. And then it says this according to congressional record. Check this out, this congressional record. September 25 of that year. You're not going to hear this on CNN. You certainly won't hear this on MSNBC or Fox News or, as that one pastor goes, msnbc straight out of hail, straight out of hail, anyway. So check this out, this is a congressional record. Go to the congressional record if you want to read this for yourself. On September 25 of 1789. The first act of the framers of the Constitution and the framers of the Bill of Rights. This was the very first act and I'm gonna read it right off the record Mr Elias Budeno, b-o-u-d-i-n-o-t. I guess that's Budeno.
Speaker 1:Budeno, he's from.
Speaker 2:Louisiana. He moves with the following resolution Resolved, that a joint committee of both houses be directed to wait upon the President of the United States who would that be? George Washington To request that he would recommend to the people of the United States a day of public Thanksgiving and prayer. That congressional resolution was delivered to President George Washington, who heartily concurred with the request and issued the first federal Thanksgiving proclamation, declaring Quote Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits and humbly to implore his protection and favor. Now, therefore, I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November 1789, that we may all unite and render unto him that's a capital H our sincere and humble thanks for his kind care and protection.
Speaker 2:Let me tell you something the border crisis in America is not people leaving our country, it's people getting into our country. Why? Because we are a prosperous, free, productive, God honoring nation. Are we perfect? No, we had slavery. It was an atrocity. You know what? As a matter of fact, Larry, slavery was a global atrocity. That's right. And for thousands and thousands of years slavery existed. And when we came to America, in less than 200 years. We abolished it. We are the only nation to abolish it that fast. England couldn't do it that fast, but we did. And there are hundreds of thousands, millions of Americans, white and black, that died to fight that global atrocity.
Speaker 2:And we're going to have people. You will see around Thanksgiving. You'll have people that they're going to be talking. It's going to be all over. You know social media. We don't celebrate a nation that had slavery and all of this kind of stuff, but look what our founding fathers and what our pilgrim forefathers brought was a system that would ultimately abolish it. So they created that system. But here's the thing, larry when you were 13, you did some pretty stupid stuff.
Speaker 1:Yes, lots.
Speaker 2:But now, how old are you? 45?, 45. 45. You look like you're 65. But you know what you know. More power to you. I got some stuff you can rub on your face.
Speaker 1:Wow, actually it's the opposite, larry looks like he's 25.
Speaker 2:But now you are at 45 and I refuse to talk to you. I refuse to think good thoughts about you because of the things that you did when you were 13. That's right, even though you got those things right Now. You fix those things Now. But I know you can't talk to Larry. He used to look at the Sears catalog, like you know it's all this crazy.
Speaker 1:Why did you say that? All because the internet didn't exist. Speaking from experience during that time.
Speaker 2:Not true, but here's the deal. We live in a redemptionless society right now, and it's redemptionless not among the people of America, it's amongst the mainstream media, the university elites, big tech and all that just this global desire to create disunity and disruption of our lifestyle, of our opportunity to peacefully engage business, to peacefully engage each other, and so it's just fomenting all this nonsense and it's removing redemption. We have grown as a nation. We cannot deny the fact that Thanksgiving is a time to celebrate. Thanksgiving is a time that the pilgrims came here for freedom of religion. King James was horrible in England. They weren't free to worship, so they had to go to Holland for several years. But they said you know what we don't like? The culture here. We're going to go to the New World. And that's what they did. And it's interesting, when the pilgrims came here, they actually tried communism. Now it's not Marxist communism.
Speaker 1:The Mayflower Compact Exactly it was socialist it was communal, in other words, that's all they knew none of us own the land.
Speaker 2:We're just all gonna work together. And you know I want to read a couple of things of Plymouth Plantation. So that's why.
Speaker 2:That's why America is an idea right, because the only thing the known world knew was a Socialistic mentality like you've got the one main leader and everybody kind of pitches in there. So America came over this after the Mayflower compact when they realized, hey, shared property doesn't work. But listen to what William Bradford, who is the first governor of Plymouth Plantation. So now the pilgrims are here in that first summer and they had a great crop and all this. But as they continued to to do this, check out what happened. He says this of Plymouth Plantation. This is William Bradford.
Speaker 2:He said Sharing all profits and benefits that we all had in common stock, regardless of how each individual worked, was a failure. The failure of that experience of communal service, which was tried for several years and by good and honest men, proved the emptiness of the theory of Plato and other ancients, applauded by some in later times, that the taking away of private property and possession of it by community Did not work. Now listen. And it says it made people as if they were wiser than God. Now Listen to what else he said. He said this for in this instance, community of property was found to breed much confusion and discontent and it retarded employment which would have been for the general benefit for the young men who were most able and fit for service, objected to being forced to spend their time and strength in working for other men's wives and children without any recompense. And Bradford Continues the strong man and resourceful man had no more share of food and clothes, etc. Than the weak man who was not able to do a quarter of the other work. This was outright an injustice. The aged engraver men, who were ranked and equalized in labor, food and clothes with the humbler and younger ones, thought it in dignity and disrespect to them. And as for men's wives who were obliged to do service for other men, such as cooking and washing clothes, they considered it slavery and many husbands would not look to it like.
Speaker 2:I agree with that. That's right. He's looking at this. He's saying look at the crap that this communism is breeding. So check out what happened. Bradford then explained he said we abolished it. And he says let none argue that this is a Human failing, the communistic plan of life in itself. He said this. I answer Seeing that all men have this failing in men in them, that God in his wisdom saw that another plan of life was fitter for them, and what was that private?
Speaker 1:private property. Check it out.
Speaker 2:So he says, every man was assigned a parcel of land according to the proportion of their number and this was very successful, he said it made all hands industrious, so that much more corn was planted other than would have been planted by the governor or anyone else, and it was a far better experiment. And thank God that we had that experiment, because all of us entrepreneurs out there which how many of them are there in America, oh God small business on a million, I think, or 37.
Speaker 2:I don't know what the exact number is there's a lot of them, thank God, because because of that decision, that's right pivoted. It gave us the foundation to where now we are free to build and grow a business on our own because of the rights of private property. And so the way we can spend our money, that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2:And we should all be thankful that's right, and we as business owners have to pay attention to what's coming out of the White House and our government and a lot of this. The targeting of private property, actually taxation on unrealized capital gains that is just, that's a form of communism, right, that's a form of thievery of private property and that stuff is in these bills that the house is looking at passing. The house has already passed the budget and their spending bill is 1.2 some trillion dollars. But the stuff that's coming down the pipeline through the Democratic Party and many Republicans look at ain't a Republican, democrat thing. This is a right. Wrong thing is when you tax unrealized gains, like on your stock portfolio or let's just say your real estate. You bought a house for 150K, it's worth 300, you don't sell it, you're taxed on that 150 gains. That's on top of the property taxes that you're already paying, okay.
Speaker 2:So anyway, we have to, as business owners, be vocal about this kind of stuff. We have to remember our history and let's be incredibly thankful for the pilgrims, let's be incredibly thankful for America, let's be incredibly thankful for the redemption in this country. We've fought and we've made a lot of things right. We're still not perfect, we're still walking through this, but the way to fix it is not to burn it down and turn away from God. The way to fix it is to remember, to look back, find out what we did right, find out what we've continued to do wrong and continue now to make those things right, just like we've done for almost 300 years. Did you know that David and I were history majors and not business majors?
Speaker 1:I love that. I didn't know that. Well, now you do. Well for our listeners. This is really the abbreviated version of the Thanksgiving lesson, because this could be three hours if we weren't careful. I know, and, David, it's interesting to hear you say that the media, the establishment, are largely responsible for promoting a perspective that we feel like is completely off. However, it's also Christians in many instances who have decided to say we're going to back down and concede and just not speak up, and there's a responsibility that we have as Christians to say we have to represent the heart of God in this process.
Speaker 2:That is exactly right. I mean, you could not have said it better. I believe pastors across the country should be speaking about Thanksgiving from the pulpit. And you know it's interesting when you're over the target, that's when Satan targets you and starts shooting arrows at you. If you're not taking arrows, if you're not taking the hits or the accusations, then you're probably not over the target. When you start speaking about the true roots of America and the true roots of Thanksgiving, you start taking some seriously politically incorrect blows. They're going to come at you, the media will come at you. Pastors have to just suck it up and speak about it, but specifically not just pastors but us in our own homes with our families.
Speaker 2:One of the resources I really like, david Barton, has a good little synopsis on wall builders where he references and sites all original source documents. It's not just some made up, it's great, it's original source documents straight out of the Governor William Bradford's journal, straight out of the congressional record. You can cite these and he puts them on wall builders for the first Thanksgiving, you can read this to your family and you're actually. You don't have to rely on mainstream media to be twisting things, you're getting it from the original source. Yes, and the beauty of history is, you know, david and I, we've read more history books than we've read business books. I mean, hands down, probably twice as many. But you see what happened in history, what worked and what didn't work, and you hear about. You know, if you're not careful, history will repeat itself. I mean, it already does anyway. So when you look back at what happened in 1619, 1620, 1621, and you see all the stuff that happened and what they learned, we can apply it to today in the way that we run our businesses.
Speaker 2:And going back to what David said, where we're really relying on spiritual leaders, you know, pastors to talk about their stuff. Speak, yes, right, speak about it, because during the Revolutionary War, you know, in 1776 and in 1774 through 78 or whatever, you had the Black Robed Regiment. It was the pastors who were calling people to arms, like being a part of. Hey, here's what's going on in the world, here's what you need to know about it and here's how we respond to it. We're calling on pastors, but what I would say is I truly believe this to be the case. They're waiting on entrepreneurs like us, who are natural risk takers, to actually speak.
Speaker 2:And we look right now with some of the loudest voices on what we would say the wrong side. You've got the Starbucks and the Apple and the PayPal and they're just pushing stuff that goes against God's best for marriage and for the world and all of these things Human flourishing. Yeah Well, who's leading that charge? It's business people. So on the Christian side, let's let business people step up and we lead the charge. We say, hey, you know what? This Thanksgiving let's remember our history, and our history is a good one. Now we've got a lot of junk in there too, you know, and you've got to repent for those things, and we have. And now, all of a sudden, you know, we're seeing ourselves as a nation in a place where people are trying to drudge up all that old stuff and say it still exists. I grew up. My hero was Michael Jordan, magic Johnson. I had dudes on my wall. My sons they've got Steph Curry Westbrook, you know, on their wall.
Speaker 2:Unfortunately LeBron that didn't exist that didn't exist 200 years ago. You would have never walked into a white home and seen black heroes on the walls of their. But that's the way I grew up, Right, and so I just look at that and say, thank God, you know for our nation that we have a system that gives us the freedom to fix things like they need to be fixed and to continue to move forward. But specifically in business, we need to be thankful for this nation.
Speaker 1:Well, it's a good reminder to you that expert ownership is about launching faith filled entrepreneurs into greater freedom and success. That is the goal here that we can, in the marketplace, make a difference that we believe is going to have a radical, hopefully eternal difference in the lives of people. So I mean, we go for a very long time on this, but we can't. Yes, because the turkeys in the oven. That's right, let's go eat. Probably not. I mean, it's a little early, but you're pregnant with a turkey.
Speaker 1:I mean, some might say that, I've put on a few LBs for the last few years. All right, own it or loan it. Let's wrap up with this Thanksgiving edition. Yams oh gosh.
Speaker 2:What Yams is that? That's the purple things. No, yeah, that's cranberry sauce, you know the purple things.
Speaker 1:No sweet potatoes. Well, it's a variation of a sweet potato.
Speaker 2:But what I don't understand, the difference between a sweet potato and a yam.
Speaker 1:Samwise, producer Samwise, can you please fact check that and then let us know a little bit later, because I don't know either.
Speaker 2:Okay. So if you say sweet potatoes my wife makes this incredible sweet potato casserole where she actually I've had that, it's good Caramelizes, you know like what is it Walnuts or something and puts it on the top, then heck yeah, I own that. A yam out of a can, like from Walmart, like a banana.
Speaker 1:No, I throw that sucker no, no.
Speaker 2:No, yams are disgusting, but sweet potatoes, yeah, those are good, we got double loan it on yams.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, sorry, if you love them, we don't. Hey, thanks for tuning in today. Don't forget to review, rate or subscribe to Expert Ownership If you haven't done so yet, and don't forget impact over income, but it's okay to pursue both. Just get the order right. All right, we'll see you next time.